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Post by Muntean Paul on Oct 16, 2011 11:39:36 GMT 2
Nu mai merg filmuletele (....eu prefer sa vad oricand strategii din astea decat sa vad un Cadorette(ar trebui sa se duca la concurs de impins camioane nu ska...) sau un Bagent neantrenat(care de altfel a si recunoscut ca a subestimat concursul) sa castige categoria sau openul deoarece Europenii s-au distrus intre ei. E alta treaba ca meciurile lui Zoloev au fost cele mai spectaculoase....insa strategia era necesara pt ca americanii sa fie pusi la respect, aroganta lor nu cunoaste limite, ei bine acum au ce sa rumege un an, iar la anul probabil vor venii si mai pregatiti ceea ce e bine pentru concurs Eu prefer sa te vad pe tine castigand, decat niste americani aroganti sau niste europeni care se distrug intre ei... Dar cel mai misto ar fi sa castig eu, decat niste americani aroganti, europeni care se distrug intre ei sau un roman care are preferinte mult prea subiective... Insa, de departe cel mai misto, ar fi ca nimeni sa nu faca ska, ca sa nu se oboseasca, nimeni sa nu vorbeasca ca sa nu iasa aroganta la suprafata si sa primeasca toti cupe, medalii, diplome si bani. Ce spui, nu e asa ca ar fi super misto? whatever...
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Post by Ciprian Valean on Oct 16, 2011 22:07:37 GMT 2
Sunt de retur acasà. Ziua 1 (joi). O zi linistità si pt. sportivi, care povesteau linistiti pe Lobby despre Ska în general. Brznek, Neil Pickup, o echipà de rusi (si Matuyshenko) sunt cu noi, însà mai retrasi. 2.30AM merg la somn. Ziua 2. (vineri) 08.00 - Mic dejun cu cei mai mari campioni mondiali în aceeasi salà (e o senzatie). Terence e foarte prietenos, stàm mult împreunà la tchache. Spiritele se agità, sportivii se pregàtesc mental, Andrei vine putin în întârziere. Interzis filmatul . Se terminà competitia. Superbe meciuri! Seara se terminà pe la 2.30 AM. Ziua 3. 9.40AM. Am adormit. Mà sunà Andrei sà mà gràbesc.. Merg sà-l încàlzesc. Nu stau cu el, îl las singur sà se concentreze. Nu vreau sà-l deranjez. Dupà el, începe si Jozsef. El nu se încàlzeste, dar are nevoie de mine pt. de-congestionare si sà se descarce pt. meciurile care le-a pierdut, mai ales cu Dimitrov (Bul). Se terminà ziua. superbà competitie. Se fac poze, mai leg si prietenii, sportivii se mai încearcà pe la mese. Andrei e prezent si surpinde pe foarte multi. Se desfac decorurile, americanii sunt prezenti la barul hôtelului. Vorbesc mult cu Jerry despre stilul lui, mi-l explicà si chiar îmi place. Însà ori stilul lui ori hook, ori Top. Nu poti sà te excelezi în toate, mai ales pt. mine la început. E dezamàgit de rezultatul lui si spune cà va veni la anul antrenat sà ia locul 1. Travis e acolo care o dà pe "I'm a legent, no more an athlet", Godzilla (excitat dupà foarte buna prestatie al lui), Mathuseynko cam aburit spune cà a càutat sà se lupte cu Travis si Jerry dar nu a fost sà fie. John e prezent, masculina Sarah, càruia îi place sà fie admiratà asemenea unui bibelou. Am intrat în vorbà su Amolins, care spune cà nu îi mai e foame sà câstige si care simte cà a fost pe departe depàsit de Zoloev si Artem. Pe la 12.00AM descopàr cà e si discotecà. Trubin, Pushkar, DEnis sunt prezenti. Denis si danseazà (încearcà), Turbin la fel, Pushkar stà si încet se retrage. Eu dansez cu grupul de arbitri si arbitre, càrora le fac obiectia cà au fàcut o prestatie mediocrà( mi se ràspunde cà si noi, sportivi am fost mediocrii) Arbitra nu stia cà eu nu am participat ( e vorba de cea micà si frumusicà cu pàrul mai lung). Muzica se schimbà si genul nu-mi place. Merg sus la bar iau un wisky cu Jozsef, care repede merge la somn. Zoloev si Arsen sunt în lobby la internet. Li se alàturà si Tcoriev. O ambiantà de vis pt. mine. La 3h30AM se sparge tot. Barmanul nu mai serveste. Lumea mai stà putin. Hotàràsc sà nu dorm càci oricum trebuie sà plec la aeroport în scurt timp. Foarte obositor si scrisul pe facebook, lupta între foame si vizionarea concursului si filmatul pe ascuns. La nici un moment nu am simtit cà as la concurs singur. Mereu înconjurat de sportivi. Am fàcut acest rezumat sà tràiti si voi acele clipe minunate. "Înconjurat de stele, cu capu-n nori si cu inima la SKA"
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Post by Ciprian Valean on Oct 16, 2011 22:31:07 GMT 2
Jerry Cadorette pe NB : "I apologize to who ever I let down, let me be the first to say that there was so much talent there. I felt like superman yesterday, and then my nerves just got the better of me. I didn't get to sleep, and I just didn't bring it today. I KNOW for a fact I should have won, but between traveling and then the time change, my hats off to the Europeans it was a great meet, with lots of great talent that is here and to Igor for throwing the great meet. It was top notch all around. The only thing I should of done different besides WIN, was we should have Got here a day earlier to handle the time change better. Only other thing that was tough is the fact that the pullers all lay down for Dennis and Andrey, so they get to go through fresh. Makes it a little tougher for us. OH and the last thing I promise, they call SO many fouls it is crazy... I want to see if I really did foul out of my match, cause that was the difference of being in the finals vs going through the b side. " Cata aroganta si tupeu, avand in vedere ca n-a prins nici podiumul, sa mai zica ca trebuia sa castige. Jerry nu e o persoanà arogantà si nici plin de el. Ceea ce mi-a spus si mie e cà a venit sà câstige. Deci trebuia sà câstige, însà talentul, sahul si forta concurentior l-au fàcut sà piardà. Ah da si fusul orar.
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Post by Ciprian Valean on Oct 16, 2011 22:40:52 GMT 2
a tras Pushkar in primul meci cu Denis? Nu. Dar ultimul meci din finala open de la mana dreapta chiar a fost pe bune.Engin Terzi pe northeastboard:" they intentionally gave 1 match to eachother..this one is real now.. " Da, Pushkar a làsat un meci lui Denis, pt. cà si Denis a làsat unul la Pushkar mai devreme, deci îi era dator cu un meci. însà eu am fost acolo si eu cred cà si finalele le-au împàrtit. Pushkar l-a surprins pe Denis si a câstigat pe bune la stânga. Denis sà nu piardà fata a început negocierile. Dupà cum spunea si Andrei, nu e normal sà stea împreunà înainte de meci. Pushkar si Denis au stat sâmbàtà la masà împreunà câteva ore bune cu "agentii lor" si discutau. E un motiv în plus pt. mine sà cred cà Pushkar a câtigat mai mult làsându-l pe Denis sà ia Openul în dreapta. Din câte stiu eu Pushkar era putin mai bun în dreapta si mai slab în stânga si învers pt. Denis.
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Post by Cristian Anghelache on Oct 17, 2011 9:30:03 GMT 2
Toate rezultatele de la NEMIROFF WORLD CUP 2011 (Zloty Tur 2011) Mana stanga │ Mana dreapta Nemiroff 2011 - left hand results
SENIOR MEN LEFT 63KG 1. JUSSUPOV, KRUBIN KAZAKHSTAN (7964) 2. BORLAKOV, MURAT RUSSIA (7992) 3. MALAS, SŁAWOMIR POLAND (7923) 4. URAZBEKOV, MEDET KAZAKHSTAN (7991) 5. FIOŁEK, RAFAŁ POLAND (7962) 6. FARAJOV, VALI KAZAKHSTAN (7973) 7. GRALAK, MACIEJ POLAND (7925) 8. ADAMYAN, ASHOT ARMENIA (7908) 9. GOLOVANOV, VITLIY UKRAINE (7893) 10. BERIDZE, APOLONI GEORGIA (7928)
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SENIOR MEN LEFT 70KG 1. ZHOKH, OLEH UKRAINE (7938) 2. MNATSAKANYAN, VLADIMIR ARMENIA (7907) 3. UZDENOV, UMAR RUSSIA (7898) 4. PODGÓRSKI, MARIUSZ POLAND (7921) 5. BALAMUTOV, DMITRY RUSSIA (7902) 6. CHERNYAVSKY, OLEG UKRAINE (7897) 7. SODERBERG, STEPHAN SWEDEN (7967) 8. CHIPREANOV, ANDREI ROMANIA (7933) 9. ONOKHOV, ALEXEY RUSSIA (7932) 10. GROCH, DAWID POLAND (8016) 11. BIRO, GEORGE ISRAEL (7909)
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SENIOR MEN LEFT 78KG 1. TAYNOV, ARTEM UKRAINE (7913) 2. STAROŃ, RADOSŁAW POLAND (7926) 3. TSVETKOV, OLEKSANDR UKRAINE (7888) 4. RUDNYTSKYY, ROMAN UKRAINE (7916) 5. BICHILOV, TIMUR RUSSIA (7896) 6. DIMITROV, PLAMEN BULGARIA (7986) 7. BALASHOV, ALEXANDR KAZAKHSTAN (7975) 8. TUMBEV, KALOYAN BULGARIA (7994) 9. KHASSANOV, ZHANALY KAZAKHSTAN (7960) 10. KOPOSYEV, VITALIY UKRAINE (7894) 11. GROCH, DARIUSZ POLAND (8017) 12. MALAKHOV, ANDREY RUSSIA (7931) 13. OLSSON, ERIK SWEDEN (7968) 14. MNATSAKANYAN, ANDRANIK ARMENIA (7949) 15. DROGOSZ, DAMIAN POLAND (8015) 16. MIRZASAIDOV, EVGENII RUSSIA (7906)
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SENIOR MEN LEFT 86KG 1. BABAYEV, RUSTAM UKRAINE (7889) 2. GETALO, ALEKSANDR KAZAKHSTAN (7981) 3. KACHMAZOV, ALIK RUSSIA (7956) 4. SZEWCZYK, TOMASZ POLAND (9999) 5. GOLEMANOV, STOYAN BULGARIA (7987) 6. DOBROVIC, RADOSLAV SLOVAKIA (7978) 7. CIPRONIS, ANARS LATVIA (7941) 8. HERVAY, LADISLAV SLOVAKIA (7980) 9. RZANNY, WIESŁAW POLAND (7969) 10. SOLODOVNIK, MAXIM RUSSIA (7934) 11. GETALO, SERGEY KAZAKHSTAN (7984) 12. ATKINSON, ALEX UNITED KINGDOM (7952) 13. ZINTSOV, ANDRYI UKRAINE (7955)
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SENIOR MEN LEFT 95KG 1. JAGNESAK, LUBOMIR SLOVAKIA (7995) 2. TCORIEV, DZAMBOLAT RUSSIA (7942) 3. KARIAEV, MURAT RUSSIA (7903) 4. KHADAEV, CHARMEN RUSSIA (7997) 5. ANTONOVITCS, RAIMONDS LATVIA (7937) 6. PUZAKOV, ALEKSANDR RUSSIA (7904) 7. HUTCHINGS, TODD USA (8002) 8. STETSIUK, VADIM UKRAINE (7920) 9. MIROSHNYK, IGOR POLAND (7914) 10. PETROV, KALOYAN BULGARIA (7993) 11. WĘGLICKI, MICHAŁ POLAND (7972) 12. ANDRYEYV, OLEH UKRAINE (7957) 13. LITOVTSEV, YEVHEN UKRAINE (7915) 14. PYVOVAROV, IVAN UKRAINE (7895) 15. BALKOVOI, OLEH RUSSIA (7892)
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SENIOR MEN LEFT +95KG 1. CYPLENKOV, DENIS RUSSIA (7985) 2. PUSHKAR, ANDRIY UKRAINE (7918) 3. BAGENT, TRAVIS USA (8005) 4. TRUBIN, DMITRIY KAZAKHSTAN (7961) 5. PATRIKEEV, SERGEI RUSSIA (7946) 6. KARPOV, VIACHESLAV RUSSIA (7945) 7. SKALSKI, MARCIN POLAND (7927) 8. OPPERMAN, TERENCE SOUTH AFRICA (7988) 9. GHAZARYAN, JANIBEK ARMENIA (7947) 10. HERMOLA, HENRI FINLAND (8001) 11. ORMANJI, LEONID MOLDOVA (7930) 12. KONTRIMAS, DAINIUS LITHUANIA (7958) 13. CHAPUNKHYAN, AZMEN ARMENIA (7950) 14. ANELAUSKAS, DARIUS NORWAY (7939) 15. DE BRUYN, ERENST SOUTH AFRICA (7989) 16. GŁOWACKI, SŁAWOMIR POLAND (7998) 17. DEREVIANENKO, ANDRII UKRAINE (7919)
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SENIOR MEN LEFT OPEN 1. PUSHKAR, ANDRIY UKRAINE (7918) 2. CYPLENKOV, DENIS RUSSIA (7985) 3. BABAYEV, RUSTAM UKRAINE (7889) 4. JAGNESAK, LUBOMIR SLOVAKIA (7995) 5. TAYNOV, ARTEM UKRAINE (7913) 6. TRUBIN, DMITRIY KAZAKHSTAN (7961) 7. SKALSKI, MARCIN POLAND (7927) 8. KARIAEV, MURAT RUSSIA (7903) 9. BAGENT, TRAVIS USA (8005) 10. KHADAEV, CHARMEN RUSSIA (7997)
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SENIOR WOMEN LEFT 65KG 1. BACKMAN, SARAH SWEDEN (7965) 2. ILIUSHYNA, VIKTORIIA UKRAINE (7891) 3. WAWRZYNIAK, MARLENA POLAND (7922) 4. LYSSOVA, YELEN KAZAKHSTAN (7983) 5. LUCIA, DEBNAROVA SLOVAKIA (7979) 6. DAMIŃSKA, JOANNA POLAND (8004) 7. PETTERSSON, CAROLINA SWEDEN (7966) 8. CHEKMAREVA, VICTORIA RUSSIA (7948) 9. KUNTUGANOVA, ZHULDYZ KAZAKHSTAN (7974) 10. OPALIŃSKA, MARTA POLAND (7924) 11. THOMMEN, CAROLINE SWITZERLAND (7943)
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SENIOR MEN RIGHT 63KG 1. JUSSUPOV, MAMED KAZAKHSTAN (7964) 2. MALAS, SŁAWOMIR POLAND (7923) 3. BORLAKOV, MURAT RUSSIA (7992) 4. KNOWLES, BARRY UNITED KINGDOM (7977) 5. GOLOVANOV, VITLIY UKRAINE (7893) 6. FIOŁEK, RAFAŁ POLAND (7962) 7. ADAMYAN, ASHOT ARMENIA (7908) 8. FARAJOV, VALI KAZAKHSTAN (7973) 9. BALANDIN, OLEKSANDR UKRAINE (7890) 10. GRALAK, MACIEJ POLAND (7925) 11. BERIDZE, APOLONI GEORGIA (7928)
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SENIOR MEN RIGHT 70KG 1. MNATSAKANYAN, VLADIMIR ARMENIA (7907) 2. UZDENOV, UMAR RUSSIA (7898) 3. CHERNYAVSKY, OLEG UKRAINE (7897) 4. DELIDJAKOV, HRISTO BULGARIA (7936) 5. BALAMUTOV, DMITRY RUSSIA (7902) 6. CHIPREANOV, ANDREI ROMANIA (7933) 7. BIRO, GEORGE ISRAEL (7909) 8. SAARANLUOMA, TOPI FINLAND (7911) 9. PIECHNA, ŁUKASZ POLAND (7929) 10. AKHMEDSHIN, IGOR RUSSIA (7901) 11. ONOKHOV, ALEXEY RUSSIA (7932) 12. GROCH, DAWID POLAND (8016) 13. SODERBERG, STEPHAN SWEDEN (7967) 14. PODGÓRSKI, MARIUSZ POLAND (7921)
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SENIOR MEN RIGHT 78KG 1. ZOLOEV, KHADZIMURAT RUSSIA (7899) 2. TAYNOV, ARTEM UKRAINE (7913) 3. AMOLINS, JANIS LATVIA (7935) 4. DIMITROV, PLAMEN BULGARIA (7986) 5. MALAKHOV, ANDREY RUSSIA (7931) 6. KHASSANOV, ZHANALY KAZAKHSTAN (7960) 7. RUDNYTSKYY, ROMAN UKRAINE (7916) 8. TSVETKOV, OLEKSANDR UKRAINE (7888) 9. GROCH, DARIUSZ POLAND (8017) 10. RAIKHANOV, SHYNBOLAT KAZAKHSTAN (7990) 11. BICHILOV, TIMUR RUSSIA (7896) 12. KOPOSYEV, VITALIY UKRAINE (7894) 13. LOVEI, JOSEF FRANCE (7944) 14. STAROŃ, RADOSŁAW POLAND (7926) 15. MIRZASAIDOV, EVGENII RUSSIA (7906) 16. HYDEL, MAREK POLAND (7976) 17. MIKKOLA, TIMO FINLAND (7912) 18. BALASHOV, ALEXANDR KAZAKHSTAN (7975) 19. MNATSAKANYAN, ANDRANIK ARMENIA (7949) 20. TUMBEV, KALOYAN BULGARIA (7994)
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SENIOR MEN RIGHT 86KG 1. BABAYEV, RUSTAM UKRAINE (7889) 2. GOLEMANOV, STOYAN BULGARIA (7987) 3. SERDYUK, EDURAD UKRAINE (7917) 4. KASAN, PETER SLOVAKIA (7996) 5. GETALO, ALEKSANDR KAZAKHSTAN (7981) 6. DOBROVIC, RADOSLAV SLOVAKIA (7978) 7. ROIZMAN, ARTIOM ISRAEL (7910) 8. KACHMAZOV, ALIK RUSSIA (7956) 9. BERRICHOA, SIMON USA (7963) 10. HENDERSON, PETER UNITED KINGDOM (7951) 11. SZEWCZYK, TOMASZ POLAND (9999) 12. ZINTSOV, ANDRYI UKRAINE (7955) 13. GETALO, SERGEY KAZAKHSTAN (7984) 14. CIPRONIS, ANARS LATVIA (7941)
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SENIOR MEN RIGHT 95KG 1. LILIEV, ARSEN RUSSIA (7900) 2. HUTCHINGS, TODD USA (8002) 3. GUSOV, ALEXANDER RUSSIA (7905) 4. KHADAEV, CHARMEN RUSSIA (7997) 5. TCORIEV, DZAMBOLAT RUSSIA (7942) 6. MOLENDA, MARCIN POLAND (7970) 7. ANTONOVITCS, RAIMONDS LATVIA (7937) 8. MIROSHNYK, IGOR POLAND (7914) 9. WĘGLICKI, MICHAŁ POLAND (7972) 10. GETALO, YEVGENIY KAZAKHSTAN (7982) 11. PETROV, KALOYAN BULGARIA (7993) 12. KAJDAS, NATAN POLAND (7971) 13. LITOVTSEV, YEVHEN UKRAINE (7915) 14. ANDRYEYV, OLEH UKRAINE (7957) 15. LARIN, VADMIN UKRAINE (7953) 16. PYVOVAROV, IVAN UKRAINE (7895) 17. BALKOVOI, OLEH RUSSIA (7892)
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SENIOR MEN RIGHT +95KG 1. CYPLENKOV, DENIS RUSSIA (7985) 2. PUSHKAR, ANDRIY UKRAINE (7918) 3. TRUBIN, DMITRIY KAZAKHSTAN (7961) 4. TOMSONS, NORMUNDS LATVIA (7940) 5. MATYUSHENKO, IVAN RUSSIA (7954) 6. GRIGAITIS, MODESTAS LITHUANIA (7959) 7. CADORETTE, JERRY USA (8003) 8. CHAPUNKHYAN, AZMEN ARMENIA (7950) 9. PATRIKEEV, SERGEI RUSSIA (7946) 10. SKALSKI, MARCIN POLAND (7927) 11. KONTRIMAS, DAINIUS LITHUANIA (7958) 12. KARPOV, VIACHESLAV RUSSIA (7945) 13. SHARAGOVICH, VIACHESLAV BELARUS (3090) 14. ANELAUSKAS, DARIUS NORWAY (7939) 15. BAGENT, TRAVIS USA (8005) 16. ORMANJI, LEONID MOLDOVA (7930) 17. OPPERMAN, TERENCE SOUTH AFRICA (7988) 18. PICKUP, NEIL UNITED KINGDOM (8888) 19. GŁOWACKI, SŁAWOMIR POLAND (7998) 20. DE BRUYN, ERENST SOUTH AFRICA (7989) 21. GHAZARYAN, JANIBEK ARMENIA (7947) 22. DEREVIANENKO, ANDRII UKRAINE (7919) 23. TURUNEN, TONI FINLAND (7999) 24. JANCZY, JAKUB POLAND (8000)
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SENIOR MEN RIGHT OPEN 1. CYPLENKOV, DENIS RUSSIA (7985) 2. PUSHKAR, ANDRIY UKRAINE (7918) 3. TRUBIN, DMITRIY KAZAKHSTAN (7961) 4. TOMSONS, NORMUNDS LATVIA (7940) 5. ZOLOEV, KHADZIMURAT RUSSIA (7899) 6. CADORETTE, JERRY USA (8003) 7. HUTCHINGS, TODD USA (8002) 8. GRIGAITIS, MODESTAS LITHUANIA (7959) 9. PATRIKEEV, SERGEI RUSSIA (7946) 10. BABAYEV, RUSTAM UKRAINE (7889)
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SENIOR WOMEN RIGHT 65KG 1. BACKMAN, SARAH SWEDEN (7965) 2. ILIUSHYNA, VIKTORIIA UKRAINE (7891) 3. LUCIA, DEBNAROVA SLOVAKIA (7979) 4. DAMIŃSKA, JOANNA POLAND (8004) 5. PETTERSSON, CAROLINA SWEDEN (7966) 6. LYSSOVA, YELEN KAZAKHSTAN (7983) 7. WAWRZYNIAK, MARLENA POLAND (7922) 8. KUNTUGANOVA, ZHULDYZ KAZAKHSTAN (7974) 9. OPALIŃSKA, MARTA POLAND (7924) 10. CHEKMAREVA, VICTORIA RUSSIA (7948)
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Post by Radu Sebastian Anghel on Oct 17, 2011 23:36:24 GMT 2
Miesaj din partia lui Nielutu, pentru toti aciia care cried ca aranjamientiele ie bunie:
"In a field so STACKED with exceptionally talented pullers it would be impossible to gauge things EVEN IF everybody actually attempted to pull everytime they approached the table BUT when LITERALLY THREE QUARTERS of the big name matches are actually decided via fouls or strategic lie downs then its ridiculous to start speculating on who the best in the World are based largely on and around the events at the weekend.
If I was Igor next year I would insert a caviat in the rules of the event stating that any athlete suspected of lying down in a match will not recieve payment (it would assist the situation significantly whilst not all together solving it).
Its a tremendous shame when Igor has spent so much time and money in putting together such an exceptional event that people disrespect both him and the sport by lying down in that manner, particularly when the sport is being broadcast on LIVE TV !!! what a terrible reflection of our sport that presents.
Igor has provided a stage fit to reflect the sport at its best and the athletes themselves KNIFE THAT OPPORTUNITY without a second thought disgraceful really, extremely disappointing.
Neil"
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Post by Cristian Anghelache on Oct 17, 2011 23:54:33 GMT 2
Miesaj din partia lui Nielutu, pentru toti aciia care cried ca aranjamientiele ie bunie: "In a field so STACKED with exceptionally talented pullers it would be impossible to gauge things EVEN IF everybody actually attempted to pull everytime they approached the table BUT when LITERALLY THREE QUARTERS of the big name matches are actually decided via fouls or strategic lie downs then its ridiculous to start speculating on who the best in the World are based largely on and around the events at the weekend. If I was Igor next year I would insert a caviat in the rules of the event stating that any athlete suspected of lying down in a match will not recieve payment (it would assist the situation significantly whilst not all together solving it). Its a tremendous shame when Igor has spent so much time and money in putting together such an exceptional event that people disrespect both him and the sport by lying down in that manner, particularly when the sport is being broadcast on LIVE TV !!! what a terrible reflection of our sport that presents. Igor has provided a stage fit to reflect the sport at its best and the athletes themselves KNIFE THAT OPPORTUNITY without a second thought disgraceful really, extremely disappointing. Neil" Citatul este luat de aici: teammaine.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=23211&page=3#324020Vreau sa vad si eu cum se va realiza asta... Oamenii vor incepe sa simuleze mai bine faptul ca trag, dar nu se va putea gasi o metoda care sa garanteze ca ambii sportivi dau 100%... Cyplenkov a avut multe meciuri in care adversarii nu au tras, deoarece aceea a fost optiunea lor, strategia lor, stiau ca nu are sens sa se oboseasca inutil... Nicaieri in regulamentul WAF nu este scris ca sportivii sunt obligati sa depuna toate eforturile pentru a castiga un meci. Sistemul este dubla eliminare iar fiecare sportiv este liber sa isi aleaga strategia lui pentru a se clasa cat mai bine posibil.
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Post by Radu Sebastian Anghel on Oct 18, 2011 7:43:44 GMT 2
Miesaj din partia lui Nielutu, pentru toti aciia care cried ca aranjamientiele ie bunie: "In a field so STACKED with exceptionally talented pullers it would be impossible to gauge things EVEN IF everybody actually attempted to pull everytime they approached the table BUT when LITERALLY THREE QUARTERS of the big name matches are actually decided via fouls or strategic lie downs then its ridiculous to start speculating on who the best in the World are based largely on and around the events at the weekend. If I was Igor next year I would insert a caviat in the rules of the event stating that any athlete suspected of lying down in a match will not recieve payment (it would assist the situation significantly whilst not all together solving it). Its a tremendous shame when Igor has spent so much time and money in putting together such an exceptional event that people disrespect both him and the sport by lying down in that manner, particularly when the sport is being broadcast on LIVE TV !!! what a terrible reflection of our sport that presents. Igor has provided a stage fit to reflect the sport at its best and the athletes themselves KNIFE THAT OPPORTUNITY without a second thought disgraceful really, extremely disappointing. Neil" Citatul este luat de aici: teammaine.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=23211&page=3#324020Vreau sa vad si eu cum se va realiza asta... Oamenii vor incepe sa simuleze mai bine faptul ca trag, dar nu se va putea gasi o metoda care sa garanteze ca ambii sportivi dau 100%... Cyplenkov a avut multe meciuri in care adversarii nu au tras, deoarece aceea a fost optiunea lor, strategia lor, stiau ca nu are sens sa se oboseasca inutil... Nicaieri in regulamentul WAF nu este scris ca sportivii sunt obligati sa depuna toate eforturile pentru a castiga un meci. Sistemul este dubla eliminare iar fiecare sportiv este liber sa isi aleaga strategia lui pentru a se clasa cat mai bine posibil. Intr-adevar, este fix acelasi lucru atunci cand individual consideri ca nu ai nicio sansa si eviti chiar o accidentare, cu strategia comuna a doi sportivi, strategie care se intinde de-a lungul a doua categorii si care nu face decat ... (vezi mai sus).
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Post by Cristian Anghelache on Oct 18, 2011 8:31:49 GMT 2
Intr-adevar, este fix acelasi lucru atunci cand individual consideri ca nu ai nicio sansa si eviti chiar o accidentare, cu strategia comuna a doi sportivi, strategie care se intinde de-a lungul a doua categorii si care nu face decat ... (vezi mai sus). Intentia difera, dar rezultatul este acelasi. Pentru spectatorii care nu inteleg sistemul, este totuna, ei vad niste oameni care nu au depus efort intr-un meci, deci spectacolul dispare in toate cazurile. Parerea mea este ca regula trebuie sa fie aceeasi pentru toata lumea, ca sa nu fie discriminari. Daca Pushkar nu are voie sa cedeze un meci, atunci toti sportivii sa fie obligati sa dea 100% in fiecare meci. Si revin la ideea anterioara: abia astept sa vad cum se va monitoriza acest lucru.
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