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Feb 24, 2012 23:04:59 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Feb 24, 2012 23:04:59 GMT 2
CHRISTIAN BINNIE pe northeastboard:" Oh John, I an surprised at you....I said, MOST in it anymore...at 48 yrs old still at the top... I am not one to hide the fact ( I've posted it to many times) that I can NOT understand how GROWN ( men who have been competing for yrs now) men can put on 20 -100 lbs in mere months or a yr, NATURALLY!..You see Guys at 98s go to supers..76s go to 42s, 220s go to supers...I guess I just am physically different then most... AGAIN 97 AAA Nats I was 284lbs At my last meet, the 09 AAA Nats I was 284lbs..My heaviest was the 02 Harley Pull and 08 Zloty and I was 292lbs...And for Zloty I took in an extra 3,000-5,000 calories in protein shakes every morning for Jan til I got on the plane to Poland. So I can NOT see how GROWN men ,already established in this sport, who have been "Able" to make these "strides" in such a short period of time, PHYSICALLY, keep it up.... MOST, if you have watched the "sport" since, oh, 04-05 arent really competing yearly anymore...But you will hear excuses like, "been there done that", " I have enough Nat titles", "got family obligations going on", "I only want $ now" ....etc etc ,,,You get my PT! "
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Feb 29, 2012 10:00:01 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Feb 29, 2012 10:00:01 GMT 2
"FROM DOPING CONTROL COMMITTEE TO : ALL NATIONAL FEDERATIONS AND ORGANISERS OF ARMWRESTLING EVENTS. As you know, 20 antidoping tests were made at the World Armwrestling Championship in December, 2011 in Kazakhstan. Following competitors have a positive test result: Mr. Normunds TOMSONS/LAT 5302/LATVIA Mr. Bahtiar KUBANYCHBEK/ KYR5903/ KYRGHISTAN Mr. Arsen CHOMAEV/RUS 2801/ RUSSIA Mr. Abdula ELDAROV /RUS 2819/RUSSIA Mrs. Tatiana ISTOMINA /RUS 28106/ RUSSIA These persons are under provisional suspension until a sanction is taken by the Doping Control Committee. They are NOT ALLOWED to take part to any Armwrestling event ( local, national, international, Vendetta,…) until further notice. All National Federations are invited to implement this suspension in all countries. On 8 February 2012, J-F ANDRE Director of Doping Control Committee EAF 2012-02-10" Pe site-ul federatiei WAF a fost creata o sectiune Doping Control, unde a fost pus si acest document. Tot in acea sectiune a fost pus si un document important care atrage atentia asupra faptului ca Methylhexaneamin - o substanta care este folosita in unele suplimente nutritive - a fost interzisa de WADA in anul 2010:
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Mar 11, 2012 17:05:22 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Mar 11, 2012 17:05:22 GMT 2
STEROIDS OR TRAINING??? PRO BODYBUILDERS TRANSFORMATION
Kingpin2710 pe youtube: " Im 26, trained my whole life. People using steroids have always lifted more. They always do better at sports. They seem confident. There really are few physical side effects. They think regular people are weak (and we are!). In the end though, they are normal people, just like you, just like me. If some people feel the need to be bigger, then so be it. I remember who I am, and I'm happy with that. "
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Mar 11, 2012 20:05:30 GMT 2
Post by Vasile Scurtu on Mar 11, 2012 20:05:30 GMT 2
Methylhexaneamin nu e substanta care e in produsul ....Jak3d? ?
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Mar 12, 2012 9:48:43 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Mar 12, 2012 9:48:43 GMT 2
Methylhexaneamin nu e substanta care e in produsul ....Jak3d? ? " Tot in acea sectiune a fost pus si un document important care atrage atentia asupra faptului ca Methylhexaneamin - o substanta care este folosita in unele suplimente nutritive - a fost interzisa de WADA in anul 2010 " Deci este o avertizare generala asupra mai multor suplimente nutritive... Jack3d contine Methylhexaneamine, dar cu siguranta nu este singurul supliment nutritiv care contine acesta substanta." 1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl 1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl is also known as Methylhexaneamine or DMAA. It is a naturally-occurring constituute of the geranium plant. This plant has long been in the food supply and has traditionally been used for a wide variety of purposes. This particular constitute is a stimulant that provides energy and focus to the user. This is one of the things that separates Jack3d from the rest, and makes Jack3d the best pre-workout drink out there. 1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl is safe in small doses. Never exceed recommended dosage and follow directions. Although there are no long-term studies on its usage, it has a long history of safe use. We will stay on the lookout for more information on geranamine. Geranium has been safely used as an herbal supplement for centuries, though. " www.jack-3d.com/ingredients_____________________________________ Supplements proven to contain banned substances like methylhexaneamine
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Apr 7, 2012 16:35:38 GMT 2
Post by Emanuel Panfil on Apr 7, 2012 16:35:38 GMT 2
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Apr 12, 2012 22:23:16 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Apr 12, 2012 22:23:16 GMT 2
Nu m-ar mira ca acest studiu sa fi fost comandat de marii producatori de ceai verde, care s-au gandit sa profite si ei putin de pe urma dopingului... Pentru cei care cred ca marile companii nu platesc ca sa se faca "studii" favorabile, le recomand sa se uite la filmul Thank You for Smoking. ;D
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Apr 12, 2012 22:59:48 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Apr 12, 2012 22:59:48 GMT 2
SUBSTANȚE ȘI METODE INTERZISE ÎN COMPETIȚIE b) stimulente specifice (exemple): adrenalină**; cathină***; efedrină****; etamivan; etilefrină; fenbutrazat; fencamfamină; heptaminol; izometeptenă; levmetamfetamină; meclofenoxat; metilefedrină****; metilhexanamină (dimetilpentilamină); metilfenidat; niketamidă; norfenefrină; octopamină; oxilofrină; parahidroxiamfetamină; pemolină; pentetrazol; fenprometamină; propilhexedrină; pseudoefedrină*****; selegilină; sibutramină; stricnină; tuaminoheptan și alte substanțe cu structură chimică similară sau efect(e) biologic(e) similar(e). _____________ * Următoarele substanțe incluse în Programul de monitorizare pe anul 2012 (bupropion, cafeină, nicotină, fenilefrină, fenilpropanolamină, pipradol, sinefrină) nu sunt considerate substanțe interzise. ** Administrarea locală (de exemplu nazală, oftalmologică) de adrenalină sau administrarea asociată cu agenții anestezici locali nu este interzisă. *** Cathina este interzisă când concentrația sa în urină este mai mare de 5 micrograme per mililitru. **** Efedrina și metilefedrina sunt interzise atunci când concentrația oricăreia dintre ele în urină este mai mare de 10 micrograme per mililitru. ***** Pseudoefedrina este interzisă când concentrația sa în urină este mai mare de 150 micrograme per mililitru.Sursa: www.anad.gov.ro/pdf/listainterzisa2012.pdf_____________________________________ Auzisem de ceva timp despre catina ca ar fi interzisa peste anumite valori, dar acum ca m-am uitat si la cantitati, mi se pare chiar aiurea... Cu alte cuvinte, daca ne luam dupa cantitatile din sange date de ANAD, catina (5 micrograme per mililitru) este de 2 ori mai periculoasa decat Efedrina și metilefedrina (10 micrograme per mililitru), si de 30 de ori mai periculoasa decat Pseudoefedrina (150 micrograme per mililitru)... Toata lumea stie despre efedrina si derivatii ei ca sunt interzisi, dar putina lume stie despre catina (care este 100% naturala) ca ar fi interzisa...
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Jul 26, 2012 13:09:54 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Jul 26, 2012 13:09:54 GMT 2
Engin Terzi - facebook:" Ok guys..i will ask your opinion about a very important matter..for now imagine this as a story..this is not about me..about a succesful athlete who uses a dietary supplement testing positive on a doping test because of a substance which is NOT listed on WADA prohibited list.. WADA lists tens on stımulant substances category S6; S6. STIMULANTS All stimulants (including both optical isomers where relevant) are prohibited, except imidazole derivatives for topical use and those stimulants included in the 2012 Monitoring Program* . Stimulants include: a: Non-Specified Stimulants: Adrafinil; amfepramone; amiphenazole; amphetamine; amphetaminil; benfluorex; benzphetamine; benzylpiperazine; bromantan; clobenzorex; cocaine; cropropamide; crotetamide; dimethylamphetamine; etilamphetamine; famprofazone; fencamine; fenetylline; fenfluramine; fenproporex; furfenorex; mefenorex; mephentermine; mesocarb; methamphetamine(d-); p-methylamphetamine; methylenedioxyamphetamine; methylenedioxymethamphetamine; modafinil; norfenfluramine; phendimetrazine; phenmetrazine; phentermine; 4-phenylpiracetam (carphedon); prenylamine; prolintane. A stimulant not expressly listed in this section is a Specified Substance. b: Specified Stimulants (examples): Adrenaline ** ; cathine *** ; ephedrine **** ; etamivan; etilefrine; fenbutrazate; fencamfamin; heptaminol; isometheptene; levmetamfetamine; meclofenoxate; methylephedrine **** ; methylhexaneamine (dimethylpentylamine); methylphenidate; nikethamide; norfenefrine; octopamine; oxilofrine; parahydroxyamphetamine; pemoline; pentetrazol; phenpromethamine; propylhexedrine; pseudoephedrine ***** ; selegiline; sibutramine; strychnine; tuaminoheptane;
and adds "and other substances with a similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s)" and now includes the substance which is found in this supplement to there without naming.. all those substances are already UNKNOWN to athletes, yet they want athletes to know about the UNLISTED SUBSTANCES' similarities with these already UNKNOWN substances.. an athlete who uses supplements checks the ingridents if they are on WADA list or not..and this should be safe enough way to follow...but expecting an athlete (esspecially an armwrestler whose profession is NOT armwrestling) to know the similarities of ALL SUBSTANCES with eachother, requires us to become chemical engineers..i understand that OLYMPIC SPORTS athletes to have advisors etc about these matters but an armwrestler does not have such opportunity..KEEP EVERYONE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY SINGLE SUBSTANCE WHICH IS WRITTEN ON CURRENT WADA list but not FOR A SUBSTANCE WHICH IS NOT WRITTEN THERE.. its only a supplement and i will share the name of that and of the substance some time later.. so what should be the punishment of this armwrestler ? my opinion ,is to take his medal back but not banning him.. what is your opinion ? " ________________________________________________ www.supplementscanada.com/media/vpx-no-shotgun-mhf1-info.gif this is the supplement that he used .. VPX NO SHOTGUN MHF 1 ________________________________________________ Am subliniat cu rosu partea cea mai importanta... Deja o dam in penibil... Cei de la WADA au deja pretentii ca cei care folosesc suplimente nutritive sa ghiceasca daca acel supliment contine o substanta care ar putea fi interzisa, chiar daca acea substanta nici macar nu figureaza in lista ca fiind interzisa... Este PENIBIL... Eu nu am am mai luat suplimente de cativa ani, dar probabil ca in curand o sa fie interzis chiar si consumul de apa de cei de la WADA...
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Aug 5, 2012 11:01:01 GMT 2
Post by Plopeanu Cristian on Aug 5, 2012 11:01:01 GMT 2
am si eu o intrebare... sper sa nu fiu rautacios sau sa supar pe cineva .... am vazut la nationale ca anumiti concurenti bagau mana in buzunar si trageau ceva pe nas inainte sa ajunga la masa...pot sa stiu si eu daca in primul rand au voie? adica ma refer sa nu consume substante ''curate'' sau mai pe scurt sa o faca chiar pe fata asa
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Aug 5, 2012 11:50:03 GMT 2
Post by George Badea on Aug 5, 2012 11:50:03 GMT 2
am si eu o intrebare... sper sa nu fiu rautacios sau sa supar pe cineva .... am vazut la nationale ca anumiti concurenti bagau mana in buzunar si trageau ceva pe nas inainte sa ajunga la masa...pot sa stiu si eu daca in primul rand au voie? adica ma refer sa nu consume substante ''curate'' sau mai pe scurt sa o faca chiar pe fata asa Din ce stiu nu e interzis; se foloseste in powerlifting si alte sporturi de forta Powerlifting Ammonia Capstotusi, ce treaba au nationalele cu topicul asta ? puteai intreba la doping
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Aug 5, 2012 13:27:01 GMT 2
Post by Tiberiu Mihalcea on Aug 5, 2012 13:27:01 GMT 2
Asa cum a zis si George, probabil era o sticluta de amoniac. Eu am tras din a lui Liliev la Armfight #41 si mi-au iesit ochii din cap.
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Oct 18, 2012 21:49:16 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Oct 18, 2012 21:49:16 GMT 2
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Oct 18, 2012 22:52:41 GMT 2
Post by Cristian Anghelache on Oct 18, 2012 22:52:41 GMT 2
Derek M. Smith " I dont mean to bring up this broken topic again but i have a serious question that has been bothering me. I have asked some of the top people in AW this question and have received mixed answers.
In order to become the best in the world. Do i have to take steroids at some point? Is it possible without them?
I truly dont want a debate on whether steroids are right or wrong or a debate on who is using them. I just want to know if John/Engin and other valued members believe i can achieve success without touching them. If i work as hard as i can and i take care of my body the best that i can, can i win Nemiroff while being clean one day?
I dont want this to seem like i am accusing any top pullers of taking them either for i can not ever know 100%. I would never try to take anything away from these amazing athletes.
If anyone feels that they have the true answer to this question but do not want to post it publicly please feel free to message me privately on here.
Thanks guys. ** Not a Steroid 'right or wrong?' topic** " John R Brzenk The impossible part of this question is the question about YOU. Can you become champion with or without. You might not reach a level anywhere near the best no matter what you do. Now if you are asking can non users be as good, and sometimes better, and on rare occasion best against chemical foes ... I can for sure answer this question with a Absolutely YES. Yes of course it is possible it has happened hundreds of times.
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Oct 20, 2012 11:06:55 GMT 2
Post by Aron Szekely on Oct 20, 2012 11:06:55 GMT 2
Eu ma intreb cat am putea progresa dak ne-am antrena mai optim, si la antrenamentele la masa nu am concura ci ne-am antreana. Deci cat am putea progresa dak nu ne-am accidenta la antrenamentele la masa? Si cat am progresa dak nu ne-am supraantrena? Si oare cat am progresa dak nu ne-am gandi ca cei tari sunt dopati (chiar dak sunt ce conteaza? dak ai decis ca nu bagi ce mai conteaza, dak ai decis ca bagi iarasi nu conteaza ca alti baga sau nu)
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